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Real Lawyers Podcast: Cyndy McCollough on AI Roadmaps for Law Firms and Middle-Out Change

By Colin O'Keefe on August 28, 2025
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Cyndy McCollough—founder and principal consultant at McCollough Consulting—joins Kevin to talk about moving firm marketing from AI dabbling to an actual roadmap. We get into training first, picking one small pilot, winning buy-in with a middle-out model, and the everyday use cases that free teams to do higher-value work.

Watch the episode below or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

Link to Outline Outline

  • 00:00 — Intro and Cyndy’s background in legal marketing and tech
  • 01:16 — What firms are asking for right now
  • 04:30 — Competitive intel and research as fast, practical wins
  • 05:21 — Event prep and follow-up that doesn’t eat your week
  • 06:26 — Early admin wins like inbox drafting and summaries
  • 07:48 — Why a middle-out change model works best in firms
  • 09:18 — How to choose one small pilot with clear success criteria
  • 11:03 — Training first, tool basics and setting expectations
  • 22:38 — Building prompt libraries and simple standards
  • 30:51 — Governance, an AI council and lightweight guardrails
  • 37:16 — Three adoption models firms are trying and what sticks
  • 45:09 — Where to learn more and how to keep momentum

Link to Key Takeaways Key Takeaways

  • Start with training so people know what’s possible and what’s not
  • Pick one pilot that solves a real pain, measure it and share the win
  • Middle-out change beats top-down edicts and bottom-up chaos
  • Prompt libraries and simple standards reduce rework and variance
  • Email drafts, event prep and competitive research are fast wins
  • Keep governance lightweight so it enables, not blocks
  • Align BD and marketing workflows so AI helps both sides
  • Momentum matters—make the first wins visible and repeatable
Tags: AI
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As Publisher at LexBlog, Colin leads the Publishing team and guides LexBlog clients and community members on blogging digital publishing strategy. A professionally-trained journalist, he’s applied the trade by helping keep LexBlog at the forefront of blogging and digital media trends for more…

As Publisher at LexBlog, Colin leads the Publishing team and guides LexBlog clients and community members on blogging digital publishing strategy. A professionally-trained journalist, he’s applied the trade by helping keep LexBlog at the forefront of blogging and digital media trends for more than a decade—split up by a four-year stint helping lead the Seattle Mariners’ digital marketing efforts. He’s a fan of those M’s, the Green Bay Packers, Seattle craft beer, pinball, jogging and ebikes.

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